tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post3826335791966302893..comments2024-03-28T21:12:43.343-05:00Comments on Bates Family Blog: Bates Updates and Pictures | Gil and Kelly | 19 Kids | Bringing Up Bates | UP TV: Josie and Kelton's Love StoryLily and Elliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00941253435533935093noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-30127078361899352722018-08-26T18:00:02.553-05:002018-08-26T18:00:02.553-05:00So here are my thoughts on their courtship, engage...So here are my thoughts on their courtship, engagement and kissing. I've been watching the show since it began and I have a lot of respect for the Bates. What they decide to do is their decision and for their family. Connie Mullinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07895222326150938884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-33794258293284626872018-08-23T20:41:49.358-05:002018-08-23T20:41:49.358-05:00I can't imagine Gil and Kelly are really still...I can't imagine Gil and Kelly are really still making the rules. The courtship/engagement rules of Zach, Michaella, Erin, and Alyssa were so much more strict than the rest have been. I think Gil and Kelly are so busy with the show, kids, work, church, etc to really watch everything going on with all their children. Some things are naturally going to fall through the cracks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-85296845863276390152018-08-23T20:34:44.573-05:002018-08-23T20:34:44.573-05:00What does it matter if the Duggars are "more ...What does it matter if the Duggars are "more strict" than the Bates? As long as both families are happy, and respect each other's beliefs, it shouldn't matter. Being more/less strict is not something to thank the Lord for. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-60410479359915744542018-08-22T14:11:29.193-05:002018-08-22T14:11:29.193-05:00Yum yum, those intimate kisses on the head are int...Yum yum, those intimate kisses on the head are intimate! Not even joking. Good for them. A couple in love should have some intimacy between them - it's a very wide spectrum. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-88192498851169809132018-08-21T20:33:48.483-05:002018-08-21T20:33:48.483-05:00I don’t think he meant that he had to forgive the ...I don’t think he meant that he had to forgive the Bates. He had to forgive Josie. She was young and probably just didn’t know how to end things while keeping the friendship at that time. It was wise for her parents to encourage her to wait until she was older. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-16471164291225564842018-08-21T12:17:34.294-05:002018-08-21T12:17:34.294-05:003:39-The fact that Josie was only 15 years old sho...3:39-The fact that Josie was only 15 years old should've been explanation enough. Personally, I think 19 is still too young to be getting married. Sure, there are many folks who married young and have no regrets. My own parents married at 20, mainly because WWII was raging and dad was to be shipped overseas. (Mom always said that if circumstances had been different, she would've waited a few years.) However, statistics show that the age of the married couple does matter- the younger they are, the more likely the relationship will not last. I suppose the TV fundamentalist families fear that there will be premarital hanky-panky should a wedding be postponed, even for a short while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-68374677044181334452018-08-20T15:08:03.893-05:002018-08-20T15:08:03.893-05:00Anon 1136, I absolutely agree that the idea of a f...Anon 1136, I absolutely agree that the idea of a fifteen year old girl dating/courting/seeing a college boy can certainly be too much for many parents and for good reasons. I think it's perfectly understandable. Josie's parents were not unreasonable in the advice they gave her-far from it, at least in my opinion. My point was that, regardless of the nature of a relationship (friendship, romantic relationship, sibling relationship etc.), one needs to be clear and communicate any thoughts and concerns instead of keeping them to one's self and changing behavior without stating clearly the reasons why. Anyway, it's not my business, so I'll stop here :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-37898899865974933222018-08-20T14:51:31.247-05:002018-08-20T14:51:31.247-05:00My sister got married on 22nd birthday but I wasn...My sister got married on 22nd birthday but I wasn't invited to the wedding. I spend my birthday doing nothing. Her husband family did want my sisters famiky their.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-9100829883788912932018-08-19T19:27:46.385-05:002018-08-19T19:27:46.385-05:00Every pregnancy is different, just because Anna Du...Every pregnancy is different, just because Anna Duggar felt comfortable being a bridesmaid doesn't mean all full term pregnant women should do the same. It's also possible that Tori would have declined even if she wasn't pregnant, considering how awkward she was at her own wedding. <br /><br />And Joy Forsyth was working on construction projects and going out ice fishing the month before she gave birth, something most people on the Duggar blog thought was unwise. I personally don't think anything was wrong with her doing that, but I wouldn't expect that of all pregnant women, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-46016660775351692932018-08-19T19:19:27.333-05:002018-08-19T19:19:27.333-05:00Anon from 1136PM again: I don't think this had...Anon from 1136PM again: I don't think this had anything to do with courting vs dating but with the fact that Josie was only 15 years old at the time. I remember being that young, and I was certainly NOT ready for any serious committed relationship, nor do I recall any of my friends being ready. <br /><br />Kelton should actually be happy the Bates only advised Josie to put a break on the relationship not end it permanently, and gave their blessing to her courting him at 18 and getting married at 19. <br /><br />Many who are in a "dating culture" would strongly advise young people NOT to marry at that age, some would even prefer they live together before marriage to "make sure you're compatible!". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-74660493047176051142018-08-19T16:23:07.284-05:002018-08-19T16:23:07.284-05:00She already went through post-high school educatio...She already went through post-high school education. She is already financially dependent because she has a job. She comes across as a confident young woman. She is living her life and it looks like a great life. A good marriage has nothing to do with your age and everything to do with your maturity and knowing yourself. Some women are 40 and still not mature. Congrats to Josie & Kelton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-87124976823554745132018-08-19T14:02:09.375-05:002018-08-19T14:02:09.375-05:00Wanting your birthday to be all about you is not a...Wanting your birthday to be all about you is not an "all about me" mentality. Especially in a big family, it's nice to have one day be about you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-48106204529345997942018-08-19T13:31:10.467-05:002018-08-19T13:31:10.467-05:00I'm sure she asked Katie ahead of time and mad...I'm sure she asked Katie ahead of time and made sure it was ok with her. Also, it's really not a healthy attitude to have an "it's all about me" mentality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-43473662117360592522018-08-19T10:48:19.253-05:002018-08-19T10:48:19.253-05:00I think he was aware of the reason. But not coming...I think he was aware of the reason. But not coming from a courting style of dating culture, i think he didn't understand why he lost his best friend. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-1489521674434382782018-08-18T23:36:16.084-05:002018-08-18T23:36:16.084-05:00I'd certainly be very interested in hearing Jo...I'd certainly be very interested in hearing Josie's side of the story. While I'm happy they worked things out in the end, I was a little concerned that Kelton discussed how he forgave the Bates. I don't see what exactly Josie or her parents did that required forgiveness. <br /><br />It's certainly possible there was poor communication on her part about why she wished to put the relationship on hold. But if it was a case of her explaining, and Kelton just not understanding because of his own issues, then she did nothing wrong. And Kelton had some maturing to do as well. <br /><br />BTW I know many parents, not just conservative religious parents who reject "worldly dating" and only date/court to discern marriage, who'd be far from happy to have their 15 year old daughter enter a serious relationship with an older man already in college. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-87712802492842092502018-08-18T21:46:31.282-05:002018-08-18T21:46:31.282-05:00Hi there,
Josie's dress is from citrusandlemo...Hi there,<br /><br />Josie's dress is from citrusandlemon.com<br /><br />Lily and EllieLily and Elliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00941253435533935093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-24143654789689626032018-08-18T19:09:35.487-05:002018-08-18T19:09:35.487-05:00She has finished her studies has a job she loves s...She has finished her studies has a job she loves so now why cant she marry the man she loves and shes nineteen same age Alyssa got marriedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-89333088872444162652018-08-18T18:55:51.741-05:002018-08-18T18:55:51.741-05:00Anna Duggar was a bridesmaid to Kendra 4 days befo...Anna Duggar was a bridesmaid to Kendra 4 days before she gave birth and it was fine. <br /><br />Also, I don’t like that Josie is getting married on Katie’s 18th birthday. It’s a very special birthday and it should be all about her. I hope they do a fun celebration for her at some pointAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-77065507818331984912018-08-18T16:57:34.224-05:002018-08-18T16:57:34.224-05:00Congratulations Josie cannot wait to see your wedd...Congratulations Josie cannot wait to see your wedding on the show .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869617448079709923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-32159004643617521722018-08-18T15:39:29.048-05:002018-08-18T15:39:29.048-05:00Lovely story. It seems that Kelton was not aware o...Lovely story. It seems that Kelton was not aware of the reasons that lead Josie to stop their discussions and interaction. I think he might have been less hurt if the reasons were explained to him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-38420591953979406762018-08-18T14:38:29.763-05:002018-08-18T14:38:29.763-05:00For some reason many people don't believe the ...For some reason many people don't believe the Bates when they state the couples set their own boundaries. While Zach and Whitney kissing was apparently not premeditated but a "mistake", and they have expressed regret about it, it doesn't seem to have been a big deal in the long run. <br /><br />The Bates have discussed the importance of "being pure" but I don't think they actually see kissing before marriage as "impure" or a sin. I think they see the act of kissing more as taking a risk of tempting the couple into going further, not a sin itself. A little kiss on the forehead as part of a photo shoot is likely NOT going to do that. (Though Joe Duggar would likely disagree, the Bates are NOT the Duggars. Bates also have no problem with "frontal hugs" and many hold hands before engagement.)<br /><br />That being said I certainly notice there is "peer pressure" in the family as well as the overall IBLP social circle (though the most recent Bates courtships are with men outside IBLP) to conform to a basic set of courting rules. But that's still different than directly ordering the couple "Don't kiss" or "Don't go anywhere without chaperones".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-63176849373021284772018-08-18T11:10:56.071-05:002018-08-18T11:10:56.071-05:00She’s 19. But they’ve been sweethearts for quite ...She’s 19. But they’ve been sweethearts for quite a while. Not much different than high school sweethearts marrying right after high school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-6806716497786875162018-08-18T10:30:06.458-05:002018-08-18T10:30:06.458-05:00So happy for them!So happy for them!MOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663039266103344035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-69442627869107992312018-08-18T09:29:02.599-05:002018-08-18T09:29:02.599-05:00Love the dress she is wearing! Wish she could shar...Love the dress she is wearing! Wish she could share where it is from. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5387778566526841808.post-34993040536866082792018-08-18T08:05:52.487-05:002018-08-18T08:05:52.487-05:00What a sweet story. I was married Oct. 4th 38 year...What a sweet story. I was married Oct. 4th 38 years ago in upstate New York. Beautiful time to get married. May God Bless you both and your marriage as he did I.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00308987945042749315noreply@blogger.com